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Lutz

Now, after I read the Slate article I am quite sure that the figures are wrong.
It is a fact that any market research cannot trace the high price niche - market research (like Nielsen's) is only about what happens in super markets and other retail shops.
In addition, read SZ http://sz-magazin.sueddeutsche.de/texte/anzeigen/36518

Bastiaan

Are the prices mentioned in the article retail prices? If I go to the Aldi-sud website, it seems all wines are 2 euro's and up. Maybe they are ashamed to put the cheapest stuff on their site?

Lutz

Dear Andrew,
no idea where your figure of 1,20 € is from, but the DWI says: 48% of all bottles in Germany are sold at dicounters. 74% are sold at supermarkets and discounter. The average price at of these 74% is 2,52 € in 2010.
The rest (26%) is sold a other locations (wine stores or at the winery), for higher prices I suppose.

see: http://tinyurl.com/bllevty

Manuel

I'm German, I am a pennyless student and I would never offer guests 1€ wine from a tetra-pak. It is like Ney says: This is the wine to get drunk quickly, not to enjoy it. "Pennerwein", wine for the bums. But my mother and her boyfriend drink this ... stuff. From expensive crystal glassware, too. Sadly, this doesn't make the crappy wine any better. There may be exceptions, of course, but most of the cheapest wines aren't good wines. A minimum for the cost at which a decent wine (or any other product) can be produced exists. And with cheap wine, I am always afraid of getting a dose of glycol or methanol as a free bonus.

Martin

I really do not understand why people use cheap wine for Glühwein. I wouldn't take really expensive wine here, but a little better quality makes a definetly better Glühwein. And I make it myself. The sugary syrup they sell as bottled Glühwein in the supermarkets is disgusting. And making it so easy.

Ney

Most wine under 2 Euros merely exists to get you drunk quickly. Rarely something you can enjoy.

Not to forget, the tetra pack and other cheap wines are often used for cooking, or in winter for Gluehwein.

Curtis

@Marcellina:

My theory is that a lot of people in America drink wine because of its social status, not because they like it. And because of that they don't really know what to look for, what they might like or not like, and are highly vulnerable to "expert wine advice", out of fear of being exposed as ignorant.

My feelings exactly!

In my opinion, wine-drinking in the U.S. is still more of a snobbish novelty. It's definitely not endemic to our culture and it's definitely not mainstream. Americans drink wine more for status and showing off, which as you correctly guessed, is why we're more easily persuaded by fancy looking brands.

I personally prefer fruity, ripe wines from southern climates, my favorites being Las Pitras and El Copero, both from Spain and both in the 3 to 4 Euro price range, which is my upper limit. My strategy however, is to wait until wines go on sale. The Billa supermarket chain here in Austria rotates their 25% off sale on a weekly basis. It's only a matter of time before wines go on sale, in which case I stock up on my favorites by the cratefull. I then have enough of the good stuff for the unbeatable price of 2 to 3 euros, which usually lasts a few weeks until wine gets rotated back on sale.

Ah, the good life!

Marcellina

We often buy (and drink!) the cheapest wine at Aldi, but we stick with bottles and I have never seen one of them for under €1.99 except at blow-out sales.
My theory is that a lot of people in America drink wine because of its social status, not because they like it. And because of that they don't really know what to look for, what they might like or not like, and are highly vulnerable to "expert wine advice", out of fear of being exposed as ignorant.

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