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Raphael

Andrew, could you provide a link to Felix Salmon's piece quoted by you?

Adonis

Doesn't Lewis actually say that if Germany had had more Jews in the financial business, they would have been stuck with even more worthless derivatives because the Jews would surely have bought from Madoff?

Lutz

@sebastian
You are right. The English language has a long list of shit terms too. But it’s noticeable that insults related to not accepted sexual practices were not very common in Germany (at least when I was young). Something that has changed over the times - wixxer has become very popular. Maybe insulting becomes more international, and national differences vanish?

A friend told me, that good old fashioned Dutch insults comprise nasty or deadly diseases.

Sebastian

@Lutz:
While it is certainly true that "Scheiße" is the german equivalent to "Fuck", I must call bullshit on the common "Germans are obsessed with shit"-interpretation.
In the English Language there are scores of feces-inspired idioms and swearwords: "shithead", "in deep shit", "the shit hits the fan" "taking the piss", "full of shit", "eat shit", "shit-faced", "get your shit together" - the list goes on and on.

All in all, it seems that anglophones are just as obsessed with shit as germans are, doesen't it?

Lutz

You can discuss if Germans are “obsessed”, but you cannot disclaim that Germany’s favourite four letter word is “Scheiß(e)”. “Arschloch” is frequently used as an insult. Frenchmen also tend to be anal, like “merde”.

Please compare: In the U.S. the #1 four letter word is “fuck”, and a favoured insult is “motherfucker”. What does that tell us about this nation? What does that mean according to Freud?

In Spain various insults deal with, let’s call it “improper religious practice”. In Arab countries you give serious offence by insulting a man’s forefathers. Does anybody know what they favour in China or Japan?

LemmusLemmus

Andrew,

you've missed the most basic idea in Lewis's article, which he never spells out. It is that *Germans are stuck in the anal phase* (Freud!). One consequence of this is that they love rules (which is typical of the anal personality, according to Freud). Another is that they're obsessed with shit (an assertion that, I believe, you have made yourself).

Just don't ask me how the Jews fit into this logic.

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