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peter

hey andrew,
haven't read it yet, but tony judt's "ill fares the land" tries to drive home a similar point (social democracy, that is). though he might argue a bit more elegantly than gheoghegan, who, at times, is a bit of a chatterbox (i read the book).

the first chapter of judt's book is online at the nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/books/excerpt-ill-fares-the-land.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

Clara

just saw the video - "Verkehrsexperte"?
What kind of job is that?
Can't people be a bit more precise?

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I spent six months in Europe with nothing but what I could fit into one carry-on bag and a small shoulder bag. Everything else went into storage. And quite of the few of the things that started out in that carry-on bag got mailed back to the States because I just got tired of carrying them.

John

What Andrew said.

Die Zeit, by the way, had a nice article confronting the (typically German) kvetching about the current recovery.

Haters gonna hate.

Andrew

Oh, and one other thing: People who post comments anonymously shouldn't engage in ad hominem arguments. It's bad form.

Andrew

@Anonymous: Your point is that compared to Paradise, German society leaves a lot to be desired. A comparison beloved of many Germans! I'm in 100% agreement there, as is Gheogegan.

Gheogegan's point is that compared to really-existing, here-and-now Germany, American society leaves a lot to be desired. I think his point stands, despite the obvious caveats. There are, of course, plenty of Germans suffering economic hardship, but 'economic hardship' means something very different in the U.S. than in Germany, no?

As for the German education system, it also leaves much to be desired compared to some refulgent, Platonic ideal. But have you noticed that the American educational system is also beset by gigantic problems? Have you seen the budget of the University of California system lately? Paid any American college tuition fees? Visited any crumbling inner-city schools?

Of course, my perspective is that of a professor. Yet, the students I teach aren't being sent out into a dismal job market with $60,000 of loans hanging over their heads like a proverbial Damoclean sword. I also enjoy a lot of job security, and am pretty privileged in that regard. But most Germans with full-time employment also enjoy a level of job security that nobody in America gets. And as for those Germans who don't, I wish the same level of job security for them. Which is why I support unions!

Anonymous

At the moment, the German economy is booming and skilled workers are in demand, but mainly because of Asian, primarily Chinese, imports of German manufactured goods. Not because of purported "solidarity" or labor unions.

Sooner or later the shit's going to hit the fan because of the aging German population, Germany's weakening educational system, and industrial competition, including in production of machinery and other capital goods, of Asians and others, who are buying BMWs now but will produce their own and other value-added products like solar cells later on, which will result in reverse trade flows.

The U.S. does need better economic mechanisms ensuring fairer distribution of wealth; unions could and should play a role.

But I don't see much hope in German trade unions like Ver.di that extort higher wages and other benefits from their employers at the cost of other labor groups.

You are securely ensconced in your civil-servant-like university position; don't assume that the rest of German society is enjoying the same privilege; the reality is that the number of Germans suffering economic hardship is large and is increasing. For them, to speak of "soldarity" is absolute mockery.

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