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Marcellina

One of the happy by-products (or maybe it's the reason?) of German television's inability or reluctance to give us middle-highbrow is that people still actually go to the theater.

Norbert Dahm

So you're saying that gazing at a woman's ass is tantamount to treating her without respect? I would think that most women are conscious of whether their ass is regularly being gazed at or not and actually accentuate it with their clothes.

Otherwise, without having watched this series (and not feeling tempted to watch it) I fully agree with noribori: the purpose of an ad is to arouse interest and with Andrew it worked pretty well.


Simone S.

Since it has not been mentioned here, I'm not sure that everyone was aware of the original saying "Hinter jedem erfolgreichen Mann steht eine starke Frau". From that perspective I would assume that the ad is less about snarky talk but more about role models.

A

Well, "eyeing her ass" is really not that much different. But Mad Men is all about the sexism and really, how it was just more blatant then. So, the ad is just a more crass (male to male) version of the reality of the 60's, isn't it? Unless you find the concept of a successful women in that period to be humorous?

noribori

Now, back when I saw this poster, I hadn't watched Mad Men, although it had been recommended to me by people whose taste I trusted.

So, why did you watch it now, if not because of that poster? The ad seems to have worked perfectly. Those advertisers know what they do and how to handle sensitive 90s men (and women).

Being one of those myself, I watched the series, too. First thing I noticed was that Don leaves the room in anger when Menken tries to be on a par with him at their first meeting. And it wasn't Don recognizing talent in Peggy – his reaction was disbelief and ridicule when others told him about her talent. He doesn't stare at women? Who would believe that?

The difference between highbrow and lowbrow isn't the theme, it's the way how you look at it. You look at the series with a highbrow attitude ("its past is a different country"), but you look at the ad with a lowbrow attitude (for “fans of fart jokes"). It doesn't try to be stylish because then you would ignore it. The “snarky talk“ is a good way to come to the point.

„Hinter jeder erfolgreichen Frau steht ein Mann, der ihr auf den Arsch glotzt". Who says that? A man or a woman? Someone from the sixties or someone from today? If you try to answer those questions then you are already in the middle of what the series is about.

No, I don't think the series is a stylish artistic product about the sixties. It's as much about today as it is about the sixties.

The most obvious question for me: what were the American ads for the series looking like?
And the second question: how would a stylish, witty ad campaign look like?

MM

Hm.... the ad is not a masterpiece. But your post seems to based on the translation of glotzen.

In this ad glotzen cannot be translated wit stare. It is used in the sense; look at with delight.

glotzen = eyball, gawk, gaze
starren = stare


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