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i agree with cohu that Americans are really strange regarding nudity.awesome post.

Norbert

This is not just an issue of being squeamish or not. Neither is there such an old-fashioned concept as an America vs. Europe cultural divide anymore. This is a worldwide political
struggle.

M. Möhling

> Tellingly, every vulva in Germany is apparently *white*.
> I once found a copy of Bravo in the tram (I swear!) and
> it was the same idea but with a big fold-out spread on
> penises. They were all white too.

Michele, we definitely need to multiculturalise Teutonic landed cuntry; let a thousand twats blossom, pronto. I'm particularly on edge for multidenominational muffs and-- hey!--Muslim veiled vags. Because, dammit, we don't want no anti-pious bigotry in here.

As for dicks, gender mainstreamlining is the obvious task at hand. I'm not yet sure about best practices, but their oughta be a law anyway. Goes for dickheads, too. And dickheadettes, of course. Dang, make that dickpersons. What can I say--it's hard to teach an old dog new pricks.

cohu

I'm still not so sure about the language aspect. But I readily admit that Americans are really strange regarding nudity. An American friend insisted I must be pulling his leg when I told him I have gone to a mixed, public Sauna without a bathing suit OR a towel, aka naked. I could not convince him that I wasn't joking. And he's from Washington DC which is not, after all, Idaho!

Naked sunbathing seems to be on the decline, though. I pass by the famous "Nackerten" in the Englischer Garten quite often, and there are hardly any young people there anymore, only old Hippies. I've also noticed that younger women (below 25) refuse to go naked in the Sauna or even in the communal ladies' showers at the pool (unthought of in my age group). An unfortunate development for everyone involved!

Alexandra

@cohu: That has nothing to do with squeamishness but is because German swearing culture centres around feces, not around sex.

Andrew

That's my story and I'm sticking to it, Cohu.

Here are a few examples of things you'll see all over Germany that you won't find all over the U.S.: officially sanctioned nude beaches at which children frolic and play, mixed all-nude saunas (or even same-sex ones), teen magazines -- or any magazines at all -- with pictures of minors' exposed genitals, topless women in mainstream TV shows (such as Tatort) broadcast at 'family-friendly' times, page 1 girls, topless or nude sunbathing in public parks. I could go on.

Outside of certain parts of America's coastal enclaves, these things are, at the minimum, frowned upon, and at the maximum, would be criminally punishable.

cohu

Your examples don't seem very typical to me. Every German housewife I know would blush or giggle about the "Penischili". And I doubt the majority of Germans even know what "Vulva" means...
Are the Anglo-Saxons really that much more squeamish? I mean, they call each other (AE)"dickheads" or (BE) "cunts", and that's on the level of friendly banter used in everyday language. Same with "bollocks". That's completely unheard of in Germany (male genitals are not used as swearwords at all, and "Fotze" is extremely demeaning, i.e. not used in normal colloquial language).

Michele

Tellingly, every vulva in Germany is apparently *white*. I once found a copy of Bravo in the tram (I swear!) and it was the same idea but with a big fold-out spread on penises. They were all white too. And I mean, showing 20 pics of mostly shaved and pierced mons doesn't really count as "vulvas", does it? (/rant) But I agree the concept is refreshing.

Onkel Mo

Curiously, I had the exakt same Monty Python song popping up in my head when I read that. :)

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