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ebclectic

all this doesn´t matter when you are black in germany period

ebclectic

all this doesn´t matter when you are black in germany period

ebclectic

all this doesn´t matter when you are black in germany period

David

another number - often combined with the standard 88 - is 14, that stand for "14 words". the 14 words themselves say something like: "to secure a future for our white children" or some pretentious crap. 1488 is often used in the ns-black metal scene (there seems to be neo-nazis in many rock-subgenres), while i still wonder how the ideas of black metal and securing children work together - maybe a mystery never to be solved...

reformstaub

They are out there. Believe me. You just need to go to one of the small towns of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and you will see them. At the local bus stop. In their red and rusty 80s Volkswagen with a huge "Böse Onkelz" banner in the rear window. And they don't look like the old-fashioned Hollywood Nazis, but rather like disoriented adolescents with bald heads and expressionless faces. You might feel sorry, but still you wouldn't want to come so close as to see the colour of their shoe laces.

Don

This is a link to a Speigel piece about another German 'movement': http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,414347,00.html

The 'Apple Front' defends the purity of German fruit from alien interlopers 'Down with tropical fruit!'

Tilman Baumann

The reactions of Germans are great if it comes to Nazi demonstrations.

Sadly many don't care. But everytime a Group like the NPD party gets visible you see great counter reactions.
I remember a scene in Freiburg where zome NPD Nazis (about 50 of them) tried to make a march through the city.
The march was legal because NPD is not illegal (yet) and it was announced and granted by oficials.

It was great. They did not march a single centimeter. Hundreds of young people, families and regular citicens around them counter-protesting.

Well i know Freiburg (In the South-West) is definitely not the best place for Neo-Nazis in germany.
Some protests are more voilent (left wing groups looking for conflicts) and support in de community is not everywhere so great. But it's great to know that it is allways a scandal if Nazis emerge in the public.

So i'm sorry to say that even we with our history lesson have nazis in our community but no one likes them. ;-)

By the way. By far the greatest insult for a ordinary German is to call him a Nazi. Especially if you are foreign. Avoid trouble. It's even dificult to make a joke about if you know together well.

pjat

unfortunately, my english isn't that good, so i write my comment in german. hope you don't mind :).

richtig absurd werden die verbote von (neo)nazi-symbolen, wenn sie in ihr gegenteil umschlagen: das tragen von anti-nazi-symbolen wie durchgestrichene hakenkreuze oder hakenkreuze in der mülltonne wird dann genauso als "verwendung verfassungswidriger kennzeichen" angesehen - und verurteilt. nachlesen kann man einen solchen fall z.b. hier: https://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/wunderbar/0,1518,407112,00.html .

dass neonazis der kahlköpfigen, prügelnden sorte nicht die mehrheit sind (und mancherorts nur aus den medien bekannt), ist nicht neu. in vielerlei hinsicht schlimmer und gefährlicher ist die schleichende (oder vielleicht: schon immer vorhandene?) xenophobie in der gesellschaft, die stillschweigende akzeptanz von teilen rechten gedankenguts (nein, natürlich nicht die gewalttaten! aber man muss sich nur manchmal in der u-bahn oder der kneipe umhören, was die leute so reden...) sowie die dezidiert rechten, mit kalkül handelnden "hintermänner". und diese dinge findet man leider überall in deutschland.

übrigens, wenn es gerade um das thema symbolik geht: kann mir jemand erklären, was es mit der vorliebe für die schwarze billiardkugel (nummer 8!) in der rockabilly-szene auf sich hat?

Ligia

Useful guide! I haven´t seen no Neo Nazi too.. And If i´ve seen I might not be here to tell the story ;-)

Many people ask me if in Germany there is a neonazi in every corner, some say they would be afraid of travelling to Germany and be hit by a neonazi. Well, guess what? Last monday those same people where afraid of leaving their houses in their own lovely city:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/17/world/americas/17brazil.html?ex=1148011200&en=acf73d16ca8f1914&ei=5087%0A

Orangeshow

For Third Reich symbols check out West Coast Choppers in the states.

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