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Marek Möhling

Where where was wrong, were was wright ...er, right.

Marek Möhling

This just in from the newsdesk: when Frogs kiss, the mot juste being baiser, they say embrasser instead for the reasons given below. Asked to "embrace" other frogs in the word's proper sense, they shoot themselves or explode.

Marek Möhling

To shove some French Argot into this assortment of misunderstandings, the "mixture of sugar and eggs", known in Germany as Baiser (French for "kiss", both verb and noun), nowadays is called Meringue frogwise, as Baiser has developed some ambiguity in nowadays slang, and is thus not deemed suitable anymore. The German speaking Swiss stick with the French, lest it's about Luxemburgerli (not Luxemburgerlis, you oafs!), which where called Baiser de Mousse in more innocent times. No, in Luxemburg Luxemburgerli are not known, why do you ask?

Axel

Jan,

as Gerd wrote, the brand name "Super Dickmanns" is a relatively young creation. So it's a question of age but everyone who is older than, say, 30 will never speak of "Dickmanns" as a slang name like "Tempo".

In 1985, you heard "Mann, ist der dick, Mann!" for the first time. The company cleverly played with its name and I think a great portion of the success was caused by the "ambiguity" of the slogan, very funny expecially for boys in puperty...

"Negerküsse" and "Mohrenköpfe" as a product were invented in the 19. century in France. The French named it "tête de nègre", that's the reason for the "Mohrenkopf". They used a mixture of sugar and eggs, something that you know in Germany as "Baiser" even today. The German translation for "baiser" is "küssen" [kissing], that was the reason for "Negerküsse".

And the next time we will discuss why Germans call a little cake "Amerikaner" ;-))

Jan

Fisher is not completely wrong when saying that "Negerkuss" refers to a kind of ice cream. Indeed, in some ice cream parlors you can buy that kind of thing. It is an ice cream cone and the ice cream is covered with a chocolate coating.

However, I would agree that "Negerkuss" is usually referred to those cream cakes with chocolate coating. Besides, I disagree with Gerd. It is correct to say that "Negerkuss" is the slang name for a pastry called the "Super Dickmann's". It is similar to to "Tempo" representing every kind of tissue. It is what is generally referred to as a "Begriffsmonopol". Before, discounters developed their cheap copies of the "Super Dickmann's" these were THE "Negerküsse".

Gerd

Sometimes I wonder if your postings have to be accepted at face value or if you banter with your audience. Your disquisition on the German Negerkuss is a fine example. To cite you: Strange - for someone who apparently lived in Germany for some years, you make a bunch of mistakes here.

Saying "Negerkuss" is the slang name for a pastry called the "Super Dickmann's" is like saying "Whisky" is the slang name for a liquor called "Johnny Walker". First, "Negerkuss" is not slang but standard lanquage, though somewhat quaint or antiquated.

Second, "Negerkuss" is a generic name, whereas "Super Dickmanns" is a brand name. The brand name "Super Dickmanns" arose in 1985, the pastry itself was invented in 19th century France and came to Germany in early 20th century. And since these times the pastry is called "Mohrenkopf" (black man's head) or "Negerkuss" (black man's kiss) without any racist connotations.

Only since the sophistries of political correctness spilt over into Germany, it is also called "Schokokuss" (chocolate kiss). But if one translates "Negerkuss" into "negro's kiss", then there is just a lack of understanding German language.

Ligia

What about last century toys like "dancing black people dolls"(Steptänzer), which are still nowadays exposed at "Spielzeugmuseums" on small cities of germany? That was new and shocking to me!

http://www.museen.nuernberg.de/spielzeug/index_spielzeug.html

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